|March 2016 Newsletter
|Old Webmaster Suspended
|FYI: Old Webmaster Murray Gibbs was suspended last year for standing his ground regarding following the
guidelines of the Constitution and Bylaws. Parliamentarian Art Jacobs and Webmaster Murray Gibbs confronted
President Leo Williams and Vice President/Reunion Chairman Mike Smith back in August of 2014 about following the
Constitution and Bylaws of our Association.
It is important to let the 15th Med Association know what transpired from July 2014 to December 2015. So, I kept
all the emails during that time to show that your current Executive Committee is not following the C&BLS. Read all
the emails on this website and you can make you own opinion about what has happened in the background.
|A 60 day notice must be submitted to the Executive
Committee before 2016 Reunion for any changes or
DUMPING of our Constitution and Bylaws.
Below is a letter I would like you to read.
It will be later sent to the Executive Committee.
|TO: 15th Medical Battalion Association Members
FROM: Murray Gibbs, Past President
SUBJECT: My Suspension as Webmaster
By now, you have probably heard from one of our elected officers, through the grapevine, or in seeing
the new website, that after 9 years of service that I am no longer the 15th Med Association
You may also be aware that there is a certain amount of controversy and consternation over this
situation. I would like to explain what has occurred.
I will say up front that from time to time organizations do change and evolve for very healthy reasons
– new blood comes in with fresh ideas – that is why we elect officers each year to the Executive
Committee, and whose terms do expire.
With regard to these positions like the Treasurer, Secretary, and Webmaster however, the 15th Med
Association members who have served in those positions have been pretty stable over the years –
those functions usually require more detailed work where the experience gained over time in those
positions has been valuable to the Association in making sure those things are done smoothly and
well. And, quite frankly, those positions are also ones that not too many people have volunteered for:
- Jim Calibro has been the Secretary for quite some time and does it well, making sure the
minutes and all the paperwork gets completed.
- Bob McKinley was our Treasurer for many years, and keeping track of all the financial records is
a task requiring both time and diligence.
As important as those functions are, the responsibilities of the Webmaster entail constant attention
and monitoring – just keeping track of software upgrades, licenses, fixing bugs, new technology,
posting additions, and just visiting and monitoring the website almost daily consumes countless hours
I do not take issue with the current Executive Committee, or for that matter any Executive Committee
who periodically wants to appoint new people into various Association positions.
What I do take exception to however is how your current Executive Committee violated the
Association Constitution & By-Laws that were:
- Unanimously endorsed by the Executive Council in office in Sacramento.
- Unanimously voted upon and approved by the Association in Sacramento.
This memo, or open letter to the Association, is to inform you of what transpired, both at the Boise
reunion last year, and since. I will simply state the facts regarding the events that took place, and if
anyone would like further details, or, the actual emails that have been exchanged (because I save
everything), I would be only too happy to provide them to you.
From my perspective, I believe that when we elect new officers to the Executive Committee, that we
expect, and are entrusting them to conduct the affairs of the Association with professionalism,
integrity, and transparency, otherwise, why would they have put their hand up when nominated, and for
you to have voted them into office?
During the Executive Committee Meeting, a motion was made (and passed) that the Webmaster no
longer be a voting member on the Executive Committee.
1. Our Constitution & By-Laws clearly states in Article VIII, Section 1, Paragraph B that any
requests for changes or additions to our Constitution & By-Laws be submitted in writing to the
Executive Committee at least sixty (60) days prior to the Annual Business Meeting. This is prudent
and common practice in organizations for two reasons:
(a) It provides the Executive Committee adequate time to consider those changes or additions to
make sure they are in the best interests of the organization, and to render an opinion to the general
membership during the Annual Business Meeting so that a motion can be properly made, seconded,
discussed, and voted upon.
(b) This prevents emotional last minute and not well-thought additions and changes to the Constitution
& By-Laws from being hastily enacted that the organization may regret, causing unnecessary and
2. Additionally, there was a total lack of professional courtesy and transparency in this illegal
move. One or more of the Executive Committee members concocted this idea off-line, and never
approached me before the meeting for my opinion or a simple heads-up regarding their thinking or
position on the changes they wanted. With all the great emphasis these same individuals talk about
with regard to our “brotherhood” from Vietnam, this was pure and simple a backstabbing ambush that
was then rammed through with an Executive Committee vote and subsequently the Annual Business
Having never encountered this kind of deceitful behavior in the Association before, and knowing that I
could no longer work in good faith with members I did not trust, I decided to immediately resign my
position as Webmaster.
Past President Leo Williams was appointed in my place, which immediately caused me great concern.
During his term as President he did not answer emails, did not publish a single President’s Corner
message to the website, made no other contributions to the website, held no Executive Committee
meetings by telephone (of which I was a member), and for the better part of five months complained
that his computer had been, at various times been hacked, compromised, interfered with by “the
government,” or was down. Mind you, at the same time:
1. He had access to his wife’s email address but did not use it temporarily to conduct Association
2. He did not make it a priority to secure access to either a new computer or email address in
order to resume both his personal life and his obligations as the Association President.
It was common knowledge among the Executive Committee that Leo Williams was an absentee
President, merely occupying the position and title of his office for an entire year, and yet the
Executive Committee entrusted him with the important duties of Webmaster, an individual who could
not even get his own computer fixed or back up and running.
Beginning in September there was a great flurry of activity and telephone calls to me about access
codes because Mike Smith, the President since April, could not get into the website and notify
members about the upcoming reunion.
My hesitation in providing anyone at that time with what they were asking for was that with Leo
Williams as Webmaster (I didn’t know otherwise), and in knowing his obvious lack of computer skills, I
did not want an amateur inside our website with the chance that all our accumulated history and links
would be lost, deleted, or compromised. Although I was no longer the Webmaster, I still felt an
obligation to protect our Association website.
After much wrangling and name-calling back and forth, I was informed that the Association had a new
Webmaster who did these things as his business. Okay, all well and good at this point.
Wanting to insure that the website would be in good hands, I asked to see the minutes from the
Executive Committee authorizing this move, and a copy of any written understanding, agreement, list
of duties or expectations, and how the arrangement would be terminated and the website turned back
over to the Association if the deal did not work out. I was refused.
(After all, I had been accused of having too much power in controlling the website and having a vote
too. It seemed reasonable to me that the Executive Committee would surely want to prevent such an
occurrence ever happening again with someone else they barely knew and have everything in writing.)
The name-calling and personal attacks escalated from there. I was accused with extortion and holding
the Association ransom to my “totally unreasonable” request to see the dated Executive Committee
minutes for what they were asking me to do, which unless done correctly could jeopardize the website
data, and, for the written “arrangement” with the new Webmaster. I was refused.
What is incredibly ironic is that when the new Constitution & By-Laws were passed in Sacramento,
there was a provision in the job descriptions of the various officers that the President obtain all the
relevant documents, codes, passwords, pin numbers, etc. so that if the Webmaster was hit by the
proverbial bus that he would not represent a single point of failure for the Association.
President Corky Walsh never asked for that information while in office.
President Leo Williams never asked for that information while in office.
Given that two Past Presidents had either not read the Constitution & By-Laws, or had and either not
understood the provision or had not taken their responsibilities seriously, this alleged “extortion or
ransom” could have been totally and completely avoided!
Just as with their illegal motion, the Executive Committee did not have a plan or think things through.
How did I know that procedures with the new Webmaster would not be just as slipshod?
In his apparent exasperation, President Mike Smith decided to “suspend” my membership. Again,
when I was informed of this there were no accompanying Executive Committee minutes from the
Special Business Meeting that would have taken place in accordance with the Constitution & By-Laws.
When the President gets upset at someone, or perhaps calls one or two but not all of the Executive
Committee members and decides to act out of spite and without transparency with all the Executive
Committee members, this is conduct unbecoming and unprofessional of an elected Association
Of course, when I asked to see the dated emails regarding what would have been a Special Business
Meeting and to see the detailed reasons related to this very serious decision, none were provided.
I checked with Past President and Parliamentarian Art Jacobs who wrote the Constitution & By-Laws
about this provision for suspending or expelling members. This is what he wrote to me:
“No Constitution & By-Laws can anticipate every unique situation or contingency. When something
appears to be unique then common sense, wisdom, fairness, and adhering to the spirit of the
passage is what is called for. The intent of Article III, Section 5 and 6 is to describe the behavior,
conduct, or expectations of Association members. Section 6 in particular is there for the Executive
Committee to protect the reputation of the Association when a member does something egregious.
When I wrote that passage I had in mind someone who had broken the law, committed fraud with our
money, or, as has happened with other organizations especially at reunions; assaulted another
member, member’s guest, or hotel staff or patron, caused negligent damage to the hotel, or had
been arrested for of one of those acts.
The passage was certainly not intended to settle scores when members disagreed on something.
This would be an abuse of power if a sitting President or his Executive Committee decided they didn’
t like someone, their personality, or their point of view, and decided to be punitive, to intimidate
someone with the threat of expulsion, or embarrass that individual with the general membership for
If, however, the Executive Committee believed that expulsion was in order, it can be done in one of
two ways as detailed in Section 6, Paragraph A, Sub-sections 1 and 2. In Sub-section 1 (Expulsion
Under Agreement) this means that the member wishes to keep the matter private and does agree to
abide by the Executive Committee vote to be expelled. The expulsion and the reasons will not be
announced. This places a great responsibility on the Executive Committee members to be discrete
and trustworthy with what could be sensitive issues. In Sub-section 2 (Expulsion Under
Disagreement) this means that the member has the right to have the matter presented to the general
membership at the next Annual Business Meeting, a motion made, seconded, discussed, and voted
upon. Although it is not specifically stated, it is customary for that individual to have the prerogative
to request a secret ballot for obvious reasons when there may pressure by some to vote a certain
President Mike Smith has claimed that he “inherited” this problem. He is correct on that point. But, he
was part of the cabal inside the Executive Committee that made the illegal motion (or tolerated it) in
the first place. He has now decided not to follow procedures in attempting to suspend (expel) me
without due process and in violation of the Constitution & By-Laws.
I have watched for almost two years now as President’s Leo Williams and Mike Smith have either not
done their duty or overstepped their authority. This is not what the Association deserves in its elected
Both have stated on many occasions that we are just meant to get together for brotherhood and not
have so many rules. President Mike Smith has even said he wants to completely do away with the
Constitution & By-Laws.
If that is his personal desire or goal then he:
- Should have stated that as a platform in seeking election so that the general membership knew
his intentions and true colors. To not do so is deceitful.
- Should follow the motion and voting procedures in the Constitution & By-Laws that were
unanimously approved by the members to see if he can garner enough votes to eliminate the
Constitution & By-Laws.
If not, then he should faithfully follow the Constitution & By-Laws as was the expectation of the general
membership who voted for him.
In my mind it is perfectly okay to just want to come to reunions, focus on the brotherhood, and not
have to worry about how an organization is supposed to conduct its business matters behind the
scenes. If that is the case, no problem, do NOT run for office, do NOT say you are going to be a
responsible officer and then shirk your duty or abuse your authority.
In conclusion, I am appealing to you, the general membership, to:
- Tell President Mike Smith to rescind his position to suspend (expel) me.
- If any motion is made to expel me at the Annual Business Meeting, to not second that motion,
or, if the motion is made, seconded, and discussed, to vote that the motion not be passed.
- If President Mike Smith persists, and I exercise my right to petition the general membership to
be retained as a member, to make a motion, second, discuss, and vote in favor of my continued
It saddens me to have to tell you about this depressing affair, but I thank you for your careful attention
to this very serious matter.
Past President & Webmaster
|FYI: I will not be attending the 2016 Reunion. After reading the above letter you can also read all the emails.
Just click on the button to view them and other letters sent to the Executive Meeting.
Note: If you confront the Executive Committee about all of this they will no doubt say Murray is retaliating.
I am just laying out the TRUTH.
At the bottom of the Suspension Page there is a button when you can answer a few questions
regarding the letter above and emails and other letters you have read. It may take a little while but is well worth the
Suspension Page ----
|Note: There is a lot of information that was on the old website that is not on the new website. Examples are: Saber
Articles, Newsletters & History Documents from Vietnam. What are the plans to add these since I gave President Mike
Smith a thumb drive with what was on the website as of April 25, 2015.
Also: There has not been any President Letter Messages since Corky Walsh was President, WHY?
From: Mike Smith <firstname.lastname@example.org>
To: murry gibbs <email@example.com>
Cc: firstname.lastname@example.org, email@example.com, firstname.lastname@example.org, email@example.com,
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Well Murray nice rant.
I for one and the EC are more than tired of the C&BL'S police bantering on who is right and who is wrong.. who cares?just the
C&BL'S police. The C& BL'S will be dumped at the next reunion and condensed and revamped to fit our mission statment. What
has been going on for over a year is rediculoius. The C&BL'S have caused nothing but hard feelings and hatred. I guess it is all
my fault because I trained leo in 1969 but it will end at the next reunion. We are three rams butting heads and we all are getting
head aches. You still dont realize I am following the wishes of the EC I have no vote and cant make a motion. You have been
shooting at the messenger. I am absolutly done till the next reunion. There will be no further comunication from me or any of the
rest of the Ex committee
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
|Email from President Mike Smith saying the C&BLs will be DUMPED