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mvandco <mvandco@msn.com>
To:                Corky Walsh <medevac454@aol.com>, Mike Smith <mvandco@msn.com>, Velma
Smith <velma58@aol.com>, Larry Hatch <campingout@comcast.net>, Val Huaser
<vvhuser@gmail.com>, Jim Calibro <jimcc4@att.net>, Bob and Sandra Mackenly
<Usaretbob@aol.com>, fred mckeller <fdmckjr@aol.com>, Leo Williams
<airbandit68@gmail.com>, Huey Huether <medevac2@dustoff.org>, Michael Smith
<Michael.Smith35205a@va.gov>, murry gibbs <gunnermadmur@neo.rr.com>
Cc:  

             
Subject:        
Priority:        Normal        Date:        Wednesday, October 28, 2015 8:22 PM        Size:        5 KB


I vote to terminate all discussion and conversations on the release of the associations old web
site.  We are moving on full speed to the new. I have grown extremly tired of the tirades arguments
and yes the crap I have taken....

Now the last thing I have to do is go with the vote on the table per the C&BL'S of our association.  
The EC has voted by majority to suspend Murray Gibbs for failure to supply the new appointed
web master with access to the domain also per the C&BL'S.

MURRY YOU ARE HEREBY SUSPENDED

IF YOU IMMEDIATELY GIVE UP THE DOMAIN IN ITS ENTIRETY WE WILL TABLE THE ACTION
OR THE SUSPENTION WILL BE IN FULL EFFECT
mvandco <mvandco@msn.com>
To:                murry gibbs <gunnermadmur@neo.rr.com>
Cc:  

             
Subject:        
Priority:        Normal        Date:        Thursday, October 29, 2015 7:20 PM        Size:        3 KB

Murray
Mrs Mcdonald would like you to call her.
James has passed away
360 577 8471
Art Jacobs <ajacobs@valkyrieconsultinggroup.com>
To:                mvandco <mvandco@msn.com>
Cc:                Corky Walsh <medevac454@aol.com>, Velma Smith <velma58@aol.com>, Larry
Hatch <campingout@comcast.net>, Val Huaser <vvhuser@gmail.com>, Jim Calibro <jimcc4@att.
net>, Bob and Sandra Mackenly <Usaretbob@aol.com>, Mr Fred McKeller <fdmckjr@aol.com>,
Leo Williams <airbandit68@gmail.com>, Huey Huether <medevac2@dustoff.org>, Michael Smith
<Michael.Smith35205a@va.gov>, Mr Murray Gibbs <gunnermadmur@neo.rr.com>


Subject:        Re:
Priority:        Normal        Date:        Thursday, November 26, 2015 10:24 AM        Size:        11 KB


Mr. Smith:

If you had actually read the C&BL’s, you would know that neither you nor the EC can suspend a
member! You can only vote to recommend that a member be suspended. Only the general
membership, upon voting at the Annual Business Meeting, can suspend a member.

Also, the reasons for entertaining a motion to suspend a member must be detailed in writing, and
provided to both the individual and the general membership, so that the individual is provided
adequate time to prepare any counter-arguments on his behalf, and the general membership is
provided adequate time to consider the EC recommendation.

The C&BL’s also clearly indicate that the member the EC recommends be suspended be allowed to
address the general membership during the Annual Business Meeting if a motion is made.

Additionally, you simply cannot tell people to stop talking about or communicating with regard to an
issue they deem important (unless you’ve moved the Association headquarters to Moscow).

You created this mess by not following the C&BL’s when you assumed office, and now your
solution seems to be that you have appointed yourself dictator so as to further violate the C&BL’s,
and to expect people not to talk about it because you are irritated.

You also show a lack of transparency in your email. You have added Fred McKeller to the email
string, who is no longer an Executive Committee member, but resides on the Executive Council as a
Past President.

If you are going to include Executive Council members in your emails, you need to include all of
them. You cannot cherry-pick or only include members you hope are sympathetic to your cause,
especially if you have chosen not to follow the C&BL’s on the very serious issue of potentially
suspending a member.

Art Jacobs
Past President & Executive Council Member

Strive not to be a person of success.
Strive to be a person of value.

Art Jacobs, CEO
Valkyrie Consulting Group, LLC.
1021 Falling Leaf Circle
Brentwood, Tennessee
USA 37069-6216
gunnermadmur@neo.rr.com
To:                mvandco <mvandco@msn.com>
Cc:                campingout@comcast.net, mvandco@msn.com,
ajacobs@valkyrieconsultinggroup.com, fdmckjr@aol.com, dmhuser@gmail.com,
airbandit68@gmail.com, medevacchopper@aol.com, dragin52@hotmail.com,
medevac454@aol.com, jimcc4@att.net


Subject:        
Priority:        Normal        Date:        Tuesday, November 3, 2015 9:45 PM        Size:        2 KB


Mike:

Thanks for letting me know about James McDonald passing.

I called his wife, but no answer and left my condolences.

Since you have suspended me I will not take charge of Honoring James.

What plans do you have as President honoring James McDonald?  If you
could you please let me know.

BTW:  I have been offline for a week due to moving for the last 1 1/2 months.

Had to replace my Router and Time Warner replaced my modem because I upgraded
to a higher speed at my new location.

Murray

Past President 2003-2006
15th Med Association
Murray Gibbs
Medevac 67-68
Cell: 330-565-4577
gunnermadmur@neo.rr.com
SO THAT OTHERS MAY LIVE
Mike Smith as President should
be honoring the passing of one
of our Members.  I don't know if
he did and if he didn't then
shame on HIM.
Ron (HUEY) Huether <medevac2@15thmedbnassociation.org>
To:                'Art Jacobs' <ajacobs@valkyrieconsultinggroup.com>, 'mvandco'
<mvandco@msn.com>
Cc:                'Corky Walsh' <medevac454@aol.com>, 'Velma Smith' <velma58@aol.com>, 'Larry
Hatch' <campingout@comcast.net>, 'Val Huaser' <vvhuser@gmail.com>, 'Jim Calibro'
<jimcc4@att.net>, 'Bob and Sandra Mackenly' <Usaretbob@aol.com>, 'Mr Fred McKeller'
<fdmckjr@aol.com>, 'Leo Williams' <airbandit68@gmail.com>, 'Huey Huether'
<medevac2@dustoff.org>, 'Michael Smith' <Michael.Smith35205a@va.gov>, 'Mr Murray Gibbs'
<gunnermadmur@neo.rr.com>


Subject:        RE: And Yet More Bitching
Priority:        Normal        Date:        Thursday, November 26, 2015 2:08 PM        Size:        19 KB


Any way to take my address off this list so I don't have to read the bitch that "smart" folks have for
the other folks? When you guys get your stuff together, lemme know. Art, don't want to hear your
"high and mighty" any more. Please take my address of your gripe e-mails. Thanks.

Huey Huether
Medevac2    1970-71
"I'd give back all the medals to have saved just one more life."
http://15thMedBnAssociation.org
Mike Smith <mvandco@msn.com>
To:                Ron (HUEY) Huether <medevac2@15thmedbnassociation.org>, 'Art Jacobs'
<ajacobs@valkyrieconsultinggroup.com>
Cc:                'Corky Walsh' <medevac454@aol.com>, 'Velma Smith' <velma58@aol.com>, 'Larry
Hatch' <campingout@comcast.net>, 'Val Huaser' <vvhuser@gmail.com>, 'Jim Calibro'
<jimcc4@att.net>, 'Bob and Sandra Mackenly' <Usaretbob@aol.com>, 'Mr Fred McKeller'
<fdmckjr@aol.com>, 'Leo Williams' <airbandit68@gmail.com>, 'Huey Huether'
<medevac2@dustoff.org>, 'Michael Smith' <Michael.Smith35205a@va.gov>, 'Mr Murray Gibbs'
<gunnermadmur@neo.rr.com>


Subject:        RE: And Yet More Bitching
Priority:        Normal        Date:        Thursday, November 26, 2015 2:24 PM        Size:        19 KB


Nice e-mail to read on thanksgiving.
What the heck that is not the way I read it or none of the EC read it. What is done is done and will
stand untill the next reunion. Take me off your gripe list also.
Have a nice thanksgiving
Smitty
Art Jacobs <ajacobs@valkyrieconsultinggroup.com>
To:                Ron (HUEY) Huether <medevac2@15thmedbnassociation.org>
Cc:                mvandco <mvandco@msn.com>, Corky Walsh <medevac454@aol.com>, Velma
Smith <velma58@aol.com>, Larry Hatch <campingout@comcast.net>, Val Huaser
<vvhuser@gmail.com>, Jim Calibro <jimcc4@att.net>, Bob and Sandra Mackenly
<Usaretbob@aol.com>, Mr Fred McKeller <fdmckjr@aol.com>, Leo Williams
<airbandit68@gmail.com>, Huey Huether <medevac2@dustoff.org>, Michael Smith
<Michael.Smith35205a@va.gov>, Mr Murray Gibbs <gunnermadmur@neo.rr.com>


Subject:        Re: And Yet More Bitching
Priority:        Normal        Date:        Thursday, November 26, 2015 4:08 PM        Size:        21 KB


Just stating facts. Sorry that the truth pisses everyone off. Rather than your indignant head in the
sand replies, why not point out "anything" that was incorrect (not in the C&BL's).

(Jim Calibro did correct me on one point though; Fred was elected to JVP at the reunion I missed,
so Fred is on the EC. My error - and my apology.)

Things should be done in accordance with the C&BL's unanimously approved by the membership -
they (we) had an expectation that the EC would abide by them.

When that happens my emails on the topic will stop.

Not high and mighty, just the high standards outlined in the C&BL's.

Ball's in "your" court to do the right thing.

Art

"No success can
compensate for
failure at home."

Art Jacobs, CEO
Valkyrie Consulting Group, LLC.
1021 Falling Leaf Circle
Brentwood, Tennessee
USA 37027-6216
Art Jacobs <ajacobs@valkyrieconsultinggroup.com>
To:                ron@hueyproductions.com
Cc:                mvandco <mvandco@msn.com>, Corky Walsh <medevac454@aol.com>, Velma
Smith <velma58@aol.com>, Larry Hatch <campingout@comcast.net>, Val Huaser
<vvhuser@gmail.com>, Jim Calibro <jimcc4@att.net>, Bob and Sandra Mackenly
<Usaretbob@aol.com>, Mr Fred McKeller <fdmckjr@aol.com>, Leo Williams
<airbandit68@gmail.com>, Huey Huether <medevac2@dustoff.org>, Michael Smith
<Michael.Smith35205a@va.gov>, Mr Murray Gibbs <gunnermadmur@neo.rr.com>


Subject:        Re: RE: Murray Gibbs
Priority:        Normal        Date:        Thursday, November 26, 2015 4:13 PM        Size:        19 KB


Ron:

If someone is being railroaded (suspended) without due process, then "men of good character"
should stand up, even against a mob.

Art

"No success can
compensate for
failure at home."

Art Jacobs, CEO
Valkyrie Consulting Group, LLC.
1021 Falling Leaf Circle
Brentwood, Tennessee
USA 37027-6216
Huey Huether <medevac2@dustoff.org>
To:                'Art Jacobs' <ajacobs@valkyrieconsultinggroup.com>, 'Ron (HUEY) Huether'
<medevac2@15thmedbnassociation.org>
Cc:                'mvandco' <mvandco@msn.com>, 'Corky Walsh' <medevac454@aol.com>, 'Velma
Smith' <velma58@aol.com>, 'Larry Hatch' <campingout@comcast.net>, 'Val Huaser'
<vvhuser@gmail.com>, 'Jim Calibro' <jimcc4@att.net>, 'Bob and Sandra Mackenly'
<Usaretbob@aol.com>, 'Mr Fred McKeller' <fdmckjr@aol.com>, 'Leo Williams'
<airbandit68@gmail.com>, 'Michael Smith' <Michael.Smith35205a@va.gov>, 'Mr Murray Gibbs'
<gunnermadmur@neo.rr.com>


Subject:        RE: And Yet More Bitching
Priority:        Normal        Date:        Thursday, November 26, 2015 4:37 PM        Size:        27 KB


Obviously you're still not up-to-speed that I'm a Geek. Exactly 3.5 seconds after this e-mail sends
I'm adding a script that takes all e-mails from you and permanently, don't stop at deleted, erases
them. See ya at the reunion and you can fill me in on what I missed. Medevac 2 out.

Huey Huether
Medevac 2
"I'd give back all the medals to have saved just one more life."
http://www.dustoff.org
gunnermadmur@neo.rr.com
To:                'Art Jacobs' <ajacobs@valkyrieconsultinggroup.com>, Huey Huether
<medevac2@dustoff.org>, 'Ron (HUEY) Huether' <medevac2@15thmedbnassociation.org>
Cc:                'Corky Walsh' <medevac454@aol.com>, 'Larry Hatch' <campingout@comcast.net>,
'mvandco' <mvandco@msn.com>, 'Val Huaser' <vvhuser@gmail.com>, 'Mr Fred McKeller'
<fdmckjr@aol.com>, 'Leo Williams' <airbandit68@gmail.com>, 'Michael Smith'
<Michael.Smith35205a@va.gov>, 'Bob and Sandra Mackenly' <Usaretbob@aol.com>, 'Velma Smith'
<velma58@aol.com>, 'Jim Calibro' <jimcc4@att.net>


Subject:        RE: And Yet More Bitching
Priority:        Normal        Date:        Thursday, November 26, 2015 7:16 PM        Size:        8 KB


FYI,

Maybe that is the reason my Router was hacked.  There was some Geeks involved.  

Adding a script to an email you send that invades another ones computer or
emails is not good.  Is that Criminal?

You just admitted that you can hack!

Murray

Past President 2003-2006
15th Med Association
Murray Gibbs
Medevac 67-68
Cell: 330-565-4577
gunnermadmur@neo.rr.com
SO THAT OTHERS MAY LIVE
Huey Huether <medevac2@dustoff.org>
To:                gunnermadmur@neo.rr.com
Cc:     

          
Subject:        RE: And Yet More Bitching
Priority:        Normal        Date:        Thursday, November 26, 2015 7:24 PM        Size:        9 KB


Grow up!

Huey Huether
Medevac 2
"I'd give back all the medals to have saved just one more life."
gunnermadmur@neo.rr.com
To:                Art Jacobs <ajacobs@valkyrieconsultinggroup.com>, Ron (HUEY) Huether
<medevac2@15thmedbnassociation.org>
Cc:                Corky Walsh <medevac454@aol.com>, Larry Hatch <campingout@comcast.net>,
mvandco <mvandco@msn.com>, Val Huaser <vvhuser@gmail.com>, Huey Huether
<medevac2@dustoff.org>, Mr Fred McKeller <fdmckjr@aol.com>, Leo Williams
<airbandit68@gmail.com>, Michael Smith <Michael.Smith35205a@va.gov>, Bob and Sandra
Mackenly <Usaretbob@aol.com>, Velma Smith <velma58@aol.com>, Jim Calibro <jimcc4@att.net>


Subject:        Re: And Yet More Bitching
Priority:        Normal        Date:        Thursday, November 26, 2015 8:04 PM        Size:        7 KB


Art:

Yes, the truth pisses people off.  Look what happened to John the Baptist when
he spoke the truth about Herod.  He was thrown
into prison and later had his head cut off.  

Well, that is exactly what happened to us telling the truth about following the
C&BLs.  The EC throws you under the bus.  The
EC tells me that I don't have a vote, reads my job description to me to do that
only.  It is like the pharisees telling the
Apostles John and Peter not to speak using Jesus' name.  

Every member has a right to question any Officer of the 15th Med Association
when they do (correction, DO NOT adhere) adhere to the C&BLs.  

Art, you and I live by Truth, Virtues and Honest Values and when that exposes
others who don't, they want to get
rid of us.

Any average member can understand the C&BLs and I believe even a Simpleton can.  
What are their excuses?

Past President 2003-2006
15th Med Association
Murray Gibbs
Medevac 67-68
Cell: 330-565-4577
gunnermadmur@neo.rr.com
SO THAT OTHERS MAY LIVE
Mike Smith <mvandco@msn.com>
To:                murry gibbs <gunnermadmur@neo.rr.com>, Art Jacobs
<ajacobs@valkyrieconsultinggroup.com>, Ron (HUEY) Huether
<medevac2@15thmedbnassociation.org>
Cc:                Corky Walsh <medevac454@aol.com>, Larry Hatch <campingout@comcast.net>,
Val Huaser <vvhuser@gmail.com>, Huey Huether <medevac2@dustoff.org>, Mr Fred McKeller
<fdmckjr@aol.com>, Leo Williams <airbandit68@gmail.com>, Michael Smith
<Michael.Smith35205a@va.gov>, Bob and Sandra Mackenly <Usaretbob@aol.com>, Velma
Smith <velma58@aol.com>, Jim Calibro <jimcc4@att.net>


Subject:        RE: And Yet More Bitching
Priority:        Normal        Date:        Thursday, November 26, 2015 9:39 PM        Size:        22 KB


Dear Art and Murray
Respect the office .
The bible or the CB&L's as you call them
Stated the access to the web site was to be given to the power of the association. As radified at
the Florida convention. If you read the CBANDL'S that is so. No known association that I know of
has the web master in a voting
Position in a EC . Also Murry chose to make a scene at the banquet by turning in the flash drive in
front of the entire member ship. He stated that was all we needed.  That was not so and he or you
had no rights to make demands on the operation of the web site after that. His refusal to release
his hostage web site and the tantrums over the vote is why the EC voted unanimously to suspend
him. For him to be reinstated will take a vote of membership at the next reunion. If he has a
tantrum at the reunion he could be permanently suspended. Murray please dont use quotes from
the bible I am a ordained minister. You are preaching to the preacher.  Art you are not privIleged to
all information you state a lot of thing you just think that havent been done or discussed.  I have
printed out all e-mails for anyone to review at the reunion. I am also doing as Ron Huether
blocking further e-mails.
See you at the reunion or not I dont care eather way!  Also thanks for trying to ruin my family
Thanksgiving!
Time to go back to the way we were in a brother hood in Vietnam.
Smitty
gunnermadmur@neo.rr.com
To:                Art Jacobs <ajacobs@valkyrieconsultinggroup.com>, Mike Smith <mvandco@msn.com>,
Ron (HUEY) Huether <medevac2@15thmedbnassociation.org>
Cc:                Corky Walsh <medevac454@aol.com>, Larry Hatch <campingout@comcast.net>, Val
Huaser <vvhuser@gmail.com>, Huey Huether <medevac2@dustoff.org>, Mr Fred McKeller
<fdmckjr@aol.com>, Leo Williams <airbandit68@gmail.com>, Michael Smith
<Michael.Smith35205a@va.gov>, Bob and Sandra Mackenly <Usaretbob@aol.com>, Velma Smith
<velma58@aol.com>, Jim Calibro <jimcc4@att.net>


Subject:        RE: And Yet More Bitching
Priority:        Normal        Date:        Friday, November 27, 2015 12:28 AM        Size:        13 KB


Mike:

You don't remember when I confronted you about not following the C&BLs last year
when you didn't send the EC emails on the ongoing progress of the Reunion.  Your claim
was you were a Charter Member, Past President and have done a Reunion.  You never claimed you
were following the C&BLs.  In a recent email you claimed you were TRYING to follow the C&BLs.

If you were an ordained Ministry you would not have called Art an ASSHOLE. So
collect your emails and don't forget the postings on FACEBOOK that the Reunion was finalized on
June 4, 2014 and the Contract was signed on June 9, 2014.  It took you a month and half to send me
that information on July 24, 2014.  Later in an email in August 2014 you said you never posted
anything on FACEBOOK until you sent me the Reunion information.  

I proved you wrong if you remember.  Topping if off I did not give you the thumb
drive at the BANQUET, it was at the Annual Business Meeting.  Art and I have what you would call a
photographic memory.  What happened to yours.

If you followed the BIBLE then you shouldn't have any problem with me pulling
stories out it.  If I am a Christian then the ones I offend are those who aren't.

You and a few others of the EC had a hidden agenda and you will deny that.  Art
was the only one who presented changes to the C&BLs 60 days before the Reunion.  If you remember
that a job description for the Parliamentarian was presented at the EC Meeting and I and another was
not aware of this.  What! No transparency.  Jim Calibro handed out a copy of the C&BLs that I had
highlighted in yellow with those changes that Art had presented also a copy of them.  Where was the
Parliamentarian copy and the vote to be taken from the Webmaster present 60 day in advance
according to the C&BLs?

You guys had it all planned out before the EC meeting to throw Art under the BUS
and to restrict me. Why?  Because Art and I are committed to what was voted on.  Once you have a
C&BLs never let another Association governed ours by trashing our C&BLs just to get the membership
to vote that appointed officers don't have a vote.  I still can see you have not thoroughly read the
C&BLs.  

You guys didn't follow the C&BLs before the Reunion and during the Reunion.  
That is why I stepped down. What member would want to follow Officers who don't follow the C&BLs,
but only TRY to do so.  You said it yourself that you were "trying to follow the C&BLS."  

Now if you were an ordained Minister you would have filled in for the Chaplin
instead of me doing it 2 times at Banquets.

I hope you and your family had a good Thanks Giving.  

I have not let any of these emails ruining my Thanks Giving because I don't react to them, I respond.

Think about this, when you reaction is greater than the CAUSE then the problem is the REACTION.

Later,

Murray

Past President 2003-2006
15th Med Association
Murray Gibbs
Medevac 67-68
Cell: 330-565-4577
gunnermadmur@neo.rr.com
SO THAT OTHERS MAY LIVE
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